Lacan Speaks (3 of 3)
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You heard an appeal,one familiar to me
It was very touching...,despite the fact that it led to a few problems with my tie.
It's love!
It's love preaching to you If we were all like that,
all together,loving each other...it would herald the dawn of a New Jerusalem
We've seen it various times in history but never at just any old moment
It happens because something manifests itself
..which is not strictly within the order of the discourse...because there has been a discourse which is proliferating...and iw engendering innumerable little ones ...which makes all of you,and me too,terribly uncomfortable
There is a scientific discourse whose very presence threatens us with the idea that things will be resolved in tearms of mechanicsm,ballistics..equilibria,currents..and the more we understand the better
We'll soon be like products...a certain type of individual..who'll fit in with everyone and enerything
But experience shows us that things aren't like that
What experience shows us..is that is One language..,the one you've all grown up with...which you received from the world,from your family...
It's something which couldn't have been transmitted to you...
without bringing with it a whole vibrant,confused reality which was formed by the diseres of your parents.
So,an individual's upbringing
is influenced by the mother..,
by the maternal language,
by that fundamental something..
That is where love turns...
towards that kind of vibrant call..
to that union with..what?...
with something..something which iw obviously very alienating
What is really incredible..
is that he imagined that by beating the sky with his fists...that this alienation which was exacthly what he was telling you about..is a sort of..is a call..for what?For more of what?For more truth?
His words were identical to the truth he bilieved at that moment...,and he became the instrument,the messenger,the angel...come to rescue you..from what?From your sleep,in the end.
The following day Lacan gave Francoise Wolff an interview.They discussed the major questions in psychoanalysis.
- I ask Jacques Lacan "What is psychoanalysis?"
It was very touching...,despite the fact that it led to a few problems with my tie.
It's love!
It's love preaching to you If we were all like that,
all together,loving each other...it would herald the dawn of a New Jerusalem
We've seen it various times in history but never at just any old moment
It happens because something manifests itself
..which is not strictly within the order of the discourse...because there has been a discourse which is proliferating...and iw engendering innumerable little ones ...which makes all of you,and me too,terribly uncomfortable
There is a scientific discourse whose very presence threatens us with the idea that things will be resolved in tearms of mechanicsm,ballistics..equilibria,currents..and the more we understand the better
We'll soon be like products...a certain type of individual..who'll fit in with everyone and enerything
But experience shows us that things aren't like that
What experience shows us..is that is One language..,the one you've all grown up with...which you received from the world,from your family...
It's something which couldn't have been transmitted to you...
without bringing with it a whole vibrant,confused reality which was formed by the diseres of your parents.
So,an individual's upbringing
is influenced by the mother..,
by the maternal language,
by that fundamental something..
That is where love turns...
towards that kind of vibrant call..
to that union with..what?...
with something..something which iw obviously very alienating
What is really incredible..
is that he imagined that by beating the sky with his fists...that this alienation which was exacthly what he was telling you about..is a sort of..is a call..for what?For more of what?For more truth?
His words were identical to the truth he bilieved at that moment...,and he became the instrument,the messenger,the angel...come to rescue you..from what?From your sleep,in the end.
The following day Lacan gave Francoise Wolff an interview.They discussed the major questions in psychoanalysis.
- I ask Jacques Lacan "What is psychoanalysis?"
because of the prestigious position he occupies in psychoanalysis today.
Psychoanalysis is something whose existence..is beginning to be recognised by many people.
And I certainly didn't invent the experience of analysis.It developed alogn certain paths...
which were perhaps not always..
in line with the eventual aim
However,there were certain..forms in which it became established.
While the forms are obviously artidicial...as in every kind of experience...
they have allowed a certain measure of elucidation...about something which cannot just be called...disturbances or discontents
What iw highly significant is obviously what results from the analysis itself
All this point,the fact that a growing number of people are aware of the possibilities of such an experience is that basis upon which I believe I have something to say Jacques Lacan has followed an independent and original path
Originally a psychiatrist...his thesis published in 1932 led him to analysis:
"Paranoid Psychosis in its relation to the Personality"
Delirium aw well as neurosis reveals the unconscious.
He was soon teaching at home and speaking to growing audiences
His analysis of paranoia dilighted surrealists like Dali...and psychiatrists and analysts as well
His home soon overflowed with people fascinated by ideas which subverted simplistic concepts .
I have always stressed..the obvious
Not only on first inspection but on second..and on every inspection,right up to the most recent.
Analysis is a practice of language.
Freud's discovery of the unconscious...you only have to open his first three books-fundamental books about the discovery of teh unconscious .
In Freud there is no means of gaining access to the unconxcious...except thruough language.
And analytic experience confirms that nothing passes except through speech...
either that of the analysand or the analyst.
It seems,however,excessive to insist on this basic fact of our practice.
We seek an alibi in some other secondary construction .
Psychoanalysis is something whose existence..is beginning to be recognised by many people.
And I certainly didn't invent the experience of analysis.It developed alogn certain paths...
which were perhaps not always..
in line with the eventual aim
However,there were certain..forms in which it became established.
While the forms are obviously artidicial...as in every kind of experience...
they have allowed a certain measure of elucidation...about something which cannot just be called...disturbances or discontents
What iw highly significant is obviously what results from the analysis itself
All this point,the fact that a growing number of people are aware of the possibilities of such an experience is that basis upon which I believe I have something to say Jacques Lacan has followed an independent and original path
Originally a psychiatrist...his thesis published in 1932 led him to analysis:
"Paranoid Psychosis in its relation to the Personality"
Delirium aw well as neurosis reveals the unconscious.
He was soon teaching at home and speaking to growing audiences
His analysis of paranoia dilighted surrealists like Dali...and psychiatrists and analysts as well
His home soon overflowed with people fascinated by ideas which subverted simplistic concepts .
I have always stressed..the obvious
Not only on first inspection but on second..and on every inspection,right up to the most recent.
Analysis is a practice of language.
Freud's discovery of the unconscious...you only have to open his first three books-fundamental books about the discovery of teh unconscious .
In Freud there is no means of gaining access to the unconxcious...except thruough language.
And analytic experience confirms that nothing passes except through speech...
either that of the analysand or the analyst.
It seems,however,excessive to insist on this basic fact of our practice.
We seek an alibi in some other secondary construction .
- How do you define the unconscious?
I define the unconscious...
as being like a little boat
I define it as being structured like a language
This is obviously not the place to go into detail on that
Certainly,that's the starting point for all the questions
What sort of being does this language inhabit?
How does it come about?
I believe ,right?...that this happens through the vehicle of language...which is found in enerything that is revealed within analysis
How is it that? ...through language are transmitted..such dramatic conditions?
The indiviual is so dependent on what he has expected the world...especially on all things which have been transmitted to him through that language
the language spoken by his mother ..and it is through this something that he has received such significant,dominant messages.
The disire ,of which the individual is the consequence
.. begins to shape and mark his whole destiny.
That is obviously where exploration starts...but the form of the alibi is somewhat pretentious..when referred to as"affects"...but on the occasions when I was able to produce"affects"..by making timely interventions..that's where the analytic experience started.But one can't take that as a premise It is rather at the level of language that the problem exist-...all the harder to avoid because it is not a question of theory...but one which brings in its train the efficacy of analytical practice.
St.Anne's Hospital,Paris
The insane were locked up.Lacan was interested in what they had to say
The insane will show us how to take things seriously.
In 1953.Lacan began giving weekly seminars in the chapel.
Then in Benjamin Hall
Then the Pavillon Magnan
He would present his patients...
and let the audience hear the delirium and its significance
His patients voiced their own desires.
It was the return to Freud.
Rumours began to circulate ...about this new relationship between doctor and patient
Ten years later Dr.Lacan was expelled from St.Anne's
"No exit"
as being like a little boat
I define it as being structured like a language
This is obviously not the place to go into detail on that
Certainly,that's the starting point for all the questions
What sort of being does this language inhabit?
How does it come about?
I believe ,right?...that this happens through the vehicle of language...which is found in enerything that is revealed within analysis
How is it that? ...through language are transmitted..such dramatic conditions?
The indiviual is so dependent on what he has expected the world...especially on all things which have been transmitted to him through that language
the language spoken by his mother ..and it is through this something that he has received such significant,dominant messages.
The disire ,of which the individual is the consequence
.. begins to shape and mark his whole destiny.
That is obviously where exploration starts...but the form of the alibi is somewhat pretentious..when referred to as"affects"...but on the occasions when I was able to produce"affects"..by making timely interventions..that's where the analytic experience started.But one can't take that as a premise It is rather at the level of language that the problem exist-...all the harder to avoid because it is not a question of theory...but one which brings in its train the efficacy of analytical practice.
St.Anne's Hospital,Paris
The insane were locked up.Lacan was interested in what they had to say
The insane will show us how to take things seriously.
In 1953.Lacan began giving weekly seminars in the chapel.
Then in Benjamin Hall
Then the Pavillon Magnan
He would present his patients...
and let the audience hear the delirium and its significance
His patients voiced their own desires.
It was the return to Freud.
Rumours began to circulate ...about this new relationship between doctor and patient
Ten years later Dr.Lacan was expelled from St.Anne's
"No exit"
What is analyst's role ?
Is it as you said last night the role of "I don't make you speak"?
Yes,well,last night...I came equipped with an example...to make more accessible the dimension I had explained ,by saying specifically that it was structured like a language...that is ,a particular language...the only one we know
I wanted to stress the difference,in emphasis...the precise emphasis that gives
After all,we can be at home with more than one language
We can pick up various of these different languages .
What you're asking is,if I understand correctly... what is the analyst's role ?
Explain what you mean exactly by the analyst's role.
I wanted to stress the difference,in emphasis...the precise emphasis that gives
After all,we can be at home with more than one language
We can pick up various of these different languages .
What you're asking is,if I understand correctly... what is the analyst's role ?
Explain what you mean exactly by the analyst's role.
- Should the analyst make the patient talk or shouldn't he?
The famous"I don't make you speak"
I put it forward as...as an example of what it is that makes a language specific..........
I put it forward as...as an example of what it is that makes a language specific..........
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